In Search of Perfect Pop punk
A Different Kind of Music Review
Yeah! Last Summer is a pop punk musicology project and scavenger hunt. Learn more.
Data was last updated Oct. 27, 2024 and includes ratings for 3,392 songs from 310 albums & EPs.
POSI's Top 25 Tracks
Rk. | Artist | Song | Album/EP | POSI |
---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Knuckle Puck | Your Back Porch | The Weight That You Buried | 24.60 |
2 | Set Your Goals | Work In Progress / We Do It For the Money... | Mutiny! | 24.18 |
3 | Simple Plan | I Refuse | Taking One for the Team | 22.40 |
4 | Real Friends | Everything I Never Want to Be | Everyone That Dragged You Here | 22.28 |
5 | blink-182 | Wildfire | California (Deluxe) | 21.31 |
6 | blink-182 | Lemmings | Dude Ranch | 21.08 |
7 | Rufio | Above Me | Perhaps, I Suppose... | 20.94 |
8 | Taking Back Sunday | Set Phasers to Stun | Where You Want To Be | 20.77 |
9 | One Ok Rock | Mikansei koukyoukyoku | Niche Syndrome | 20.67 |
10 | Real Friends | Old and All Alone | Put Yourself Back Together | 20.41 |
11 | Transit | Please, Head North | Keep This To Yourself | 20.24 |
12 | Man Overboard | Driveway | The Human Highlight Reel | 20.13 |
13 | Knuckle Puck | No Good | The Weight That You Buried | 19.66 |
14 | Man Overboard | Invisible | Heavy Love | 19.59 |
15 | blink-182 | Every Time I Look For You | Take Off Your Pants... | 19.54 |
T16 | Man Overboard | Voted Most Likely | Man Overboard | 19.36 |
T16 | blink-182 | Apple Shampoo | Dude Ranch | 19.36 |
18 | Such Gold | Four Superbowls, No Rings | Stand Tall | 19.20 |
19 | Real Friends | Late Nights in My Car | Put Yourself Back Together | 19.17 |
20 | Real Friends | Cover You Up | Maybe This Place is the Same... | 19.13 |
21 | Set Your Goals | This Song Is Definitely NOT About a Girl | Mutiny! | 19.03 |
22 | Veara | Next Stop...Everywhere | Growing Up Is Killing Me | 18.92 |
23 | Search the City | This Is Your Captain Speaking | Ghosts | 18.85 |
T24 | Search the City | My Secrets Have Secrets Too | Flight | 18.75 |
T24 | blink-182 | TURN THIS OFF! | One More Time... | 18.75 |
POSI's Top 10 Albums
Rk. | Artist | Album | POSI |
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1 | Set Your Goals | Mutiny! | 16.24 |
2 | blink-182 | Dude Ranch | 15.08 |
3 | Transit | Keep This To Yourself | 14.43 |
4 | Crucial Dudes | 61 Penn | 13.95 |
5 | Man Overboard | Man Overboard | 13.47 |
6 | Set Your Goals | This Will Be The Death Of Us | 13.39 |
7 | Veara | What We Left Behind | 13.13 |
8 | Seaway | Hoser | 13.12 |
9 | The Story So Far | What You Don't See | 12.85 |
10 | Rufio | Perhaps, I Suppose... | 12.67 |
POSI's Top 5 EPs
Rk. | Artist | Album | POSI |
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1 | Real Friends | Everyone That Dragged You Here | 15.70 |
2 | Knuckle Puck | The Weight That You Buried | 15.46 |
3 | Real Friends | Put Yourself Back Together | 15.36 |
4 | Set Your Goals | Set Your Goals | 15.05 |
5 | Knuckle Puck | Don't Come Home | 14.68 |
After rating 500 albums, I'm going to write a book about the Top 25—be the first to know when I do:
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What even is this?
Yeah! Last Summer is a music analytics project that aims to answer:What would happen if you laid out specific criteria for what makes an exceptional pop punk song, then measured 500 albums against it?
From there, I also hope to explore questions like:
How objectively can music be listened to? Or will the highest-rated songs just mirror my own personal taste?
How much of what we enjoy about music is quantifiable (time signatures, key changes)?; how much is not ("energy", associated memories)?
When do pop punk bands cross the line between being genre exemplars and stale derivatives?
Will the resulting Top 25 tracks and albums serve as a fair representation of the genre to someone unfamiliar with it?
Or will the real treasure be the new bands and albums I discover along the way?
Really, I suppose this is all just a very roundabout way to make a very specific kind of playlist. In many ways, it's not too unlike Pandora's Music Genome Project or Tom Haverford's method for identifying certifiable bangers.But to that end, I hope the project will allow someone completely unfamiliar with the genre to be able to listen to just five or 10 tracks and walk away with a solid understanding of what pop punk at its best is all about (and challenge that the way to do this is to listen to a playlist of the same smattering of commercial hits).
So what is Perfect Pop Punk?
PPP is the musical and lyrical elements most definitive of the genre in its purest form—what you might call a quintessential pop punk sound.Although this gets into subjective territory, I tried to think about components that aren't too artist-specific, but that, in conjunction with each other, are also somewhat unique to the genre itself and ubiquitous across its different eras.There is no complete list, but most of the major things I look for are:
Musical Elements
Dueling/overlapping vocals
Taking Back Sunday - Cute Without the E (Cut from the Team) (2002)
Hit the Lights - Three Oh Nine (2006)
Gang vocals
Modern Baseball - It's Cold Out Here (2015)
Fireworks - Detroit (2009)
Twinkly, major-key guitar leads
Man Overboard - Al Sharpton (2010)
Real Friends - I Don't Love You Anymore (2014)
Pick slides
The Story So Far - Things I Can't Change (2013)
New Found Glory - Hit or Miss (1999)
Wandering bass lines and solos
Rufio - Still (2001)
Fall Out Boy - Dance, Dance (2005)
Drum fills that escalate the song to a new section or higher tempo
Neck Deep - Crushing Grief (2014)
Fall Out Boy - The Pros and Cons of Breathing (2003)
High-tempo 4/4 snare
Title Fight - Symmetry (2009)
Saves the Day - You Vandal (1999)
Somebody yelling "Go!"
blink-182 - Peggy Sue (1994)
The Starting Line - Leaving (2003)
Ranting (and often whiny) monologues
Fall Out Boy - Get Busy Living Or Get Busy Dying (Do Your Part To Save The Scene And Stop Going To Shows) (2005)
Set Your Goals - Mutiny! (2008)
An Elite Example
Here is one high-scoring examples where many of these elements are happening at the same time. In this clip we hear six clicks in about 15 seconds—a drum fill, gang vocals, a pick slide, "Go!", 4/4 snare, and a picked melodic guitar lead:
Such Gold - Committee Circus (2012)
Lyrical Elements
Lyrically, I'm interested in classic pop punk themes like:
However, just hitting on those topics at the surface/stereotypical level isn't enough—pop punk is at its best when these common themes are expressed in unique, clever and/or snarky ways—in a way you'd want to write on your trapper keeper or leave as your AIM away message—and not one that feels like a parody of itself.
After rating 500 albums, I'm going to write a book about the Top 25—be the first to know when I do:
Rating process
Albums are evaluated track-by-track using a two-step process:
1) Music listen-through
A count of how many times I hear a foundational element of PPP. I call these "clicks" since I use a click-counter to do this.
2) Lyric read-through
After listening to each song, I then read through its lyrics looking for PPP themes. Each lyrical element is counted as one click, discounting repeats.
The idea is that once someone was familiar with the elements of PPP, they would produce a similar if not identical count by listening and reading through a song in this manner.These numbers are then plugged into a formula called POSI.
POSI is so-named as both a homage to the titular pop punk trope and because it can only produce a positive number (because even the cringiest pop punk is inherently good). POSI can be read as "X% of the time during a song (or album), something totally kickass in the vein of PPP was happening."
Song POSIThe base formula for rating individual songs is:(Music clicks + Lyric clicks) ÷ total seconds in song= POSIFor songs less than three minutes long, I add a weight or time penalty proportionate to its length—this is to offset shorter songs naturally getting higher ratings. I'll also make an adjustment for songs with particularly long intros or outros and also don't factor interlude tracks into an album's rating.Generally, anything around 9.5 is average; a rating above 14 can be considered exceptional.
Album POSIAn album's POSI rating is simply the average of the POSI rating of its eligible tracks; covers, instrumentals, or interludes are generally not factored in.
Band POSIAverage POSI rating of a band's albums.
After rating 500 albums, I'm going to write a book about the Top 25—be the first to know when I do:
Why are you doing this?
Beyond my incessant need to rank, catalog, and categorize things, this project has three main goals.
1) To rethink the review
Like restaurant or film critique, music reviews serve to entertain as much as they do inform. In this way, they often tell you more about the reviewer's taste than the music itself—rare is the review that flatly describes the contents of an album without editorialization, like how a nutrition label informs a health-conscious eater looking to fill specific dietary needs.Review rating systems are usually based on amorphous and murky criteria. Does a 3.5/5 measure production quality, composition, originality, adherence to (or bucking of) current trends, or is it more a reflection of the reviewer's tastes du jour? Does it account for their biases in any way? Is it in part a reflection of how they rated the artist's previous work? And if they listened to the album again in one year, would they rate it the same? What about in five years?Mood, setting, cultural context, and even what we were listening to prior all influence our opinions of new music. We can all think of a song we weren't immediately grabbed by, but on the third (or thirtieth) listen, something clicked—maybe it was due to who we were with, the technology we heard it on, or any other number of little details that make up a particular season of our lives.This occurs not only on the individual level, but also across the wider musical milieu. A perfect example is Weezer's album "Pinkerton".Upon release, Rolling Stone gave the band's sophomore release a 3/5 and readers voted it as the third-worst album of 1996.Eight years later, the magazine's readership voted it as the 16th greatest album of all-time. Two years after that, the album was upgraded to a 5/5 and added to the magazine's Hall of Fame.This—obviously—is ridiculous.Musically, nothing about the album changed. It was the same composition, production, and lyrics it was in 1996 as it was in 2004, and is now. The only thing that had changed were steadily increasing sales numbers, a growing cult status, and a number of newly popular bands that cited it as influential.Lead singer and songwriter Rivers Cuomo's feelings about his own album didn't seem to be immune to this shifting perception. "'Pinkerton' isn't worth a shit," he bemoaned a year after its release, declaring himself a "shitty songwriter". By 2001, his stance hadn't softened, saying to Entertainment Weekly, "It's a hideous record. It was such a hugely painful mistake that happened in front of hundreds of thousands of people and continues to happen on a grander and grander scale and just won't go away."You can probably guess where this is going. After receiving the aforementioned accolades that followed, Cuomo soon had a change of heart. In 2008, to Pitchfork: "'Pinkerton''s great. It's super-deep, brave, and authentic. Listening to it, I can tell that I was really going for it when I wrote and recorded a lot of those songs."Whether the newfound public appreciation brought on this change of feelings, or it was merely an artist getting over the (understandable) embarrassment of having a vulnerable piece of work panned, even Cuomo might not know. But from the point of view of critics and fans, the only changing variables here were a) time and b) what other people thought about it.So what if we created a rating system that eliminated those two variables as much as possible?Critics, fans, and artists can obviously change their minds about a work as they please—reconsidering or growing into a previously despised work is only natural. But given that the perception of all three of these groups can shift so quickly, why do we insist on using the standard and mostly unforgiving 1-5 or 1-10 rating systems?So what if, instead of reducing a work's subjective value to a number, a music rating instead could quantify its objective contents? In other words, what if instead of focusing on the best (whatever that means), we shifted our attention to the most?That's exactly what PPP aims to do: mitigate the more-dynamic effects of the traditional music review (like reviewer mood and public perception) and instead focus on the true constants: the content and composition of the music itself.
2) To edutain
Although my inspiration from sports analytics might be obvious, PPP and Y!LS aren't intended to be some sort of righteous debate-settler. Instead, I wanted to make something that was fun to explore and get lost in.When I was in high school, I spent countless hours wading through the original Ishkur's Guide to Electronic music (RIP Flash). Thanks to its library of samples, quippy (and unabashedly biased) blurbs, and insane level of detail, I ended up learning more about electronic music genres than any early 00's suburb kid probably had any business knowing.I probably spent an equal amount of time on Newgrounds playing a game called Punk-O-Matic (RIP Flash again). Perhaps even more than composing riotous punk bangers, I loved how the game broke down the genre's musical elements into proverbial LEGO bricks you could listen to in isolation as you created your three-chord opus.While a spreadsheet obviously isn't an "immersive" experience like a Flash guide or game is, I figure anyone that stumbles across Y!LS and enjoys when over-thought out deep dives intersect with their personal interests will enjoy poking around and seeing how their favorite albums and songs stack up, or have fun going through the live "time machine" I've assembled.For both non- and former fans, I hope Y!LS can at the very least highlight that pop punk existed both before and now long after its commercial heyday, and serve as an introductory (or re-introductory) guide to the genre. Even if pop punk ends up not being someone's can of PBR, why not give them a fair starting point to make their judgment on that isn't just the same 25 low-hanging singles on every "POP PUNK THROWBACK" playlist. By offering a better understanding of what the genre "is", I hope to help further legitimize it and put its name in the mouths of those that might otherwise just label it as emo or worse, "rock".For everyone else, I hope the project can be a jumping-off point to gaining an even deeper appreciation for the genre and discovering new bands and albums, a way to virtually crate dig that recommends music on its relation to a given genre—as opposed to a machine-driven algorithm that recommends music based on your and other users' listening activity.
3) To preserve
If the genre does up and die out someday, I hope the project can serve as a touchstone for a kind of nu-American folk music, perhaps something akin to Harry Smith's "Anthology," or just a dumb nostalgia trip for Millenials to stumble upon when we're old and helping our kids dress up for Early-00s Day at school.In the book "From the Basement: A History of Emo Music and How It Changed Society" by Taylor Markarian, there's a quote from WashedUpEmo founder Tom Mullen about emo, but that also describes how I feel about my own niche subgenre shrine:"There's a duty in my life to make sure emo is preserved and saved for future generations. Just because the photo or the song is on your phone doesn't make it last forever. We have to save what's happening now, save what this genre is and be able to document and archive properly. That will be my last dying breath. 'Hey, don't forget to save that flyer, the band may want to share that later…' CROAK."
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Ultimately, Yeah! Last Summer is just an excuse to dive extremely deep into my favorite music, create some overly-curated playlists, write some sappy essays about something that brings me unparalleled joy, and hopefully share that joy with at least one other PP head out there.In the end, I guess you could just say I'm here to...defend pop punk.
After rating 500 albums, I'm going to write a book about the Top 25—be the first to know when I do:
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